It has been almost two months since Kanye West appeared on TMZ and shared his thoughts about President 45, his past drug addiction and slavery. In a new intimate interview with Jon Caramanica of New York Times, West addresses his TMZ comments, Trump and being diagnosed with Bipolar disorder.
The interview, which took place around the time of West’s album-release party in Wyoming in May, shows a calmer and less-irrational West, who expressed many of the same views as in his controversial recent interviews. Jon Caramanica describes West as “calm, measured, verging on beatific, and also self-aware and willing to reckon with the challenges he’d created for himself.”
Speaking of his thoughts on Trump and ‘cancellation’, family, his TMZ comments, and his friend Virgil Abloh’s position at Louis Vuitton, Here are some of his best quotes:
Kanye on Trump and being “canceled”:
“There were people who said Trump would never win. I’m talking about the it-will-never-happens of the world, people in high school told you things would never happen. I felt that I knew people who voted for Trump that were celebrities that were scared to say that they liked him. But they told me, and I liked him, and I’m not scared to say what I like Let me come over here and get in this fight with you.”
“Half that audience that was there last night, half the people that are listening to the album are supposed to not listen to the album right now. I’m canceled. I’m canceled because I didn’t cancel Trump.”
Kanye on using Dr. Jan Adams for Album Cover:
“I wanted to make my album cover the doctor that performed my mom’s last surgery. I think that’s pretty big on the cancel-culture territory. I’m starting saying, “I’m not canceling him,” ’cause the world canceled him. I believe in the court of public opinion that that thought has to change.”
Kanye on TMZ Comments:
“I said the idea of sitting in something for 400 years sounds — sounds — like a choice to me, I never said it’s a choice. I never said slavery itself — like being shackled in chains — was a choice,” he said. “That’s why I went from slave to 400 years to mental prison to this and that. If you look at the clip you see the way my mind works.”
Kanye on Wife Kim’s reaction to TMZ Comments:
“There was a moment where I felt like after TMZ, maybe a week after that, I felt like the energy levels were low, and I called different family members and was asking, you know, ‘Was Kim thinking about leaving me after TMZ?’ So that was a real conversation.”
Kanye on his friendship with Virgil Abloh:
“You see me and Virgil’s relationship. I don’t know what might have been in your mind, but there might have been someplace where you wonder if those dudes still talk like that. And you saw, we do.”
You can read the full-length interview with Jon Caramanica here.